S4 - DEGEN Forum Proposal

Authors: Slinkypotato#1092, JonValjonathan.eth#5554


In S3, the DEGEN team narrowed our focus onto the POAP distribution bot. We released major UX improvements and a Twitter integration with DEGEN 3.0. We received positive feedback from the community and the POAP team. Since the release of 3.0 (three weeks ago) DEGEN

  • Managed over 110 successful events
  • Delivered more than 30,000 POAPs
  • Joined over 90 servers (just 3.0, 2.0 is on 100 servers)

DEGEN has grown across many communities and is managing more events and distributing more POAPs than ever.

The future of DEGEN is bright and we have big plans including:

  • A website to with features to manage and promote events
  • Integration with other platforms
  • Further collaboration with the POAP team
  • Direct to wallet POAP delivery

The DEGEN team also collaborated with and supported other BanklessDAO during S3 as detailed below.

In S3, the DEGEN team saw some turnover. We have stabilized and are now looking towards the future.

S4 Funding Total

1,188,674.73 BANK

Summary of Season 3


Our latest release included:

  • Announcement Channels
  • Authorized DEGENs Role
  • Improved UX
  • Twitter Integration
  • Advanced event and POAP distribution metrics
  • Reduced stored user data
  • Improved on-boarding

Publication of the official DEGEN documentation: Welcome - DEGEN User Guide

Discord Verification Completed

Now any server can invite DEGEN to join. We were previously limited to 100 servers. Our next milestone is 1000!

  • Verification required extensive communication with Discord
  • Included a Discord Code Review
  • Required retaining even less PII in our database

Support for Bankless DAO Projects

First quest build out and transition to first quest bot

  • DEGEN funds were used towards the creation of the First Quest Bot
  • The commands were transitioned from the MadHatter into the First Quest Bot

Mad Hatter milestones

  • Release of Coordinape rounds for guest, L1, and L2 members
  • Revamp of SCOAP SQUAD → Squad Up

DEGEN Discord Bot Template!


  • DEGEN was banned by Discord 3 separate times
  • We spun up new bots, debugged the issues and figured it out!
  • Our community stuck with us!
  • We have been online for more than 3 months with no issues

Season 4 Roadmap

We want DEGEN to be the best POAP distribution app in web3. This entails a fully customizable UI web app, clearer discord messages, better participation metrics, and an awesome team.

Currently we are a team of two developers working very hard to make all of this possible. We anticipate onboarding new devs and coordinators to help us push DEGEN further.

Some features we plan to complete include:

  • Enhance Mad Hatter to work on other discord servers
  • Revamp the /poap mint to work with Discord Modals
  • Further integrate the official twitter account to announce POAP events
  • Integrate the front end with the Discord DEGEN operations
  • Integrate BANK token to provide access to premium services
  • Wallet command operations

Thank you for reading this far! What features would you like to see?

Approve S4 Funding Proposal
  • Yes
  • No

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Love what you have accomplished and wish to see you push it further but I can’t vote in favour until I see what you will do with the S4 budget.

Please submit an itemized accounting.


Hey @links - thanks for taking a look! We have a much more detailed grants proposal as a google doc that’s in the works. Let us know what you think S4 - DEGEN Proposal - Google Docs

Congrats for getting through the Discord ban hammer, and well done on continuing to deliver on a useful project. I used Degen for a Twitter Spaces event today and it was actually seamless. We delivered 181 codes without a single error except for incorrect secret phrase attempts (I recommend capitalising the first letter as phones may autocorrect for that).

It’s been exciting watching Degen turn into a robust and solid tool, and I look forward to offering it as a paid service to other DAOs through DAOlationships.


Thanks for the link!

Who’s on the team? The document only lists you and jonvaljonathan, are there others?

Can you explain the rationale around asking Grants Committee to replace the funds in the locked DEGEN multisig?

Thanks for the link!
Who’s on the team? The document only lists you and jonvaljonathan, are there others?
Can you explain the rationale around asking Grants Committee to replace the funds in the locked DEGEN multisig?

The core team is only slinkypotato and jonvaljonathon. We also have guest developers who have worked with us during season 3 and have indicated their intention to work on a bounty basis. I’ve updated the doc with their details.

We have developers that have worked and earned their allocated portion of the funds that were set aside to them during season 3. This has been for the front end/UI integration. Unfortunately the previous project champion resigned before we could properly distribute those funds. This request is to replace those funds so that the devs can continue working on the work they had submitted.

We are working with ombuds to resolve the frozen funds issue. I’ve added a provisional statement in the doc. For reference: Discord

There is an ongoing ombuds case around ownership of this project. Only one of the proponents here is a multi sig holder.

There is an ongoing ombuds case around ownership of this project. Only one of the proponents here is a multi sig holder.

This is untrue.

The ombuds case was opened by the current DEGEN members to resolve the issue of the frozen funds.

Ownership of multisig ≠ ownership of project.

Having said that, two of the previous members have communicated their resignation in writing. All attempts to privately communicate have been ignored. We can only assume that any action from these members is adversarial and harmful to the project.

I understand you are frustrated but misinformation is not ok.

This is untrue.

It was opened by the opposing party on 04/28/2022 due to concerns about centralization of the project and unilateral decision making.

The funds are not frozen, the purpose of the multi sig is to prevent funding from being distributed without team consensus.

I understand you are frustrated about that but misinformation is not ok.

The background of this dispute is kind of long. If anyone is interested, here is the link to the Ombuds case so everyone can see the relevant details and perspectives.

The four members of the frozen multisig are @nonsensetwice (resigned from DEGEN) at @ZrowGz (resigned from DEGEN) @duke.eth (resigned from DEGEN but approved the Txs) and @amaredeus (still on DEGEN).

I hope that we can stop arguing and make a deal on this.



Can you speak a bit about the infrastructure cost? At $0.03 that’s about $4500, so I’m wondering where that’s going (and worrying about my own bot as well). Will these costs continue to rise as DEGEN expands to more servers.

Are there any plans to draw revenue from these other Discord servers? Are we subsidized by POAP at all, or are we taking on the cost of distributing POAPs to every DAO.


Sure thing, the biggest cost we have planned would be the premium twitter spaces API. That alone runs at $339/month: https://developer.twitter.com/en/pricing/aaa-all

Right now the cost doesn’t go up if DEGEN expands to additional servers. So far a $50/month heroku dyno is holding up well to the demand. We are using an M10 mongodb cluster at about $86/month (rough estimate) in database storage. It gives us 10GB which is fine because we plan to archive older data. I imagine we can support up to 1000 servers before running into issues.

We were awarded grants in the past by POAP (10K USD) and by others (gitcoin grant never claimed) to help offset some of these costs but the previous project champion declined or was simply absent (more details in ombuds case), just didn’t care.

The cost break for DEGEN we have planned can be found: SCT - Infrastructure Costs - Google Sheets

Looking through the sheet you can probably see that we pay for several platforms and services to help us maintain, track errors, organize, all in an effort to further develop the bot. The caveat is that we multiplied the actual value in bank by a factor of 3 to cover 3 months followed by another factor of 3 to cover unexpected price swings of BANK.

If it came down to it we could probably strip away access to a single account and find creative ways to reduce the cost.

Nice DEGEN and Good work

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I approve nice job all

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