bDIP-N: Level update to include tlBANK

Title: bDIP-N: Level update to include tlBANK

Draft Authors: Icedcool, Ernest of Gaia, Sprinklesforwinners, Tomahawk

Working Group: Tokenomics Squad


BDIP SUMMARY

This bDIP recognizes tlBANK as a component of L1 membership, and a core primitive of BanklessDAO.

BDIP BACKGROUND

As the utility of the BANK has evolved organically, the token itself has evolved beyond its original use to provide services within the ETH ecosystem. To keep up with these changes, it is imperative that the token itself evolve. tlBANK was first introduced on the forum here 5. Since then, we have seen support for the use of tlBANK grow. This can be seen in multiple forum posts that have obtained quorum. This can be seen here 5 and here 2. The use of tlBANK was ratified in this 2 snapshot vote.

BDIP SPECIFICATION

Recognize tlBANK as L1

Current Text New Text
L1 - Members L1 - Members
Full DAO members are those who have accumulated the requisite 35,000 BANK and are authenticated in the Discord server. The benefits of L1s include access to additional Discord channels and no longer needing to renew the guest pass. Full DAO members are those who have accumulated the requisite 35,000 BANK and are authenticated in the Discord server. The benefits of L1s include access to additional Discord channels and no longer needing to renew the guest pass. DAO Members that mint the preset tlBANK will also be given L1 Membership with the included benefits. Only the tlBANK minting address receives the L1 access.

EXPECTED IMPACT

  • This will create secondary use cases for the BANK token by:
    • Allowing tlBANK to trade on any NFT marketplace.
    • Creating new areas of involvement and alignment of projects.
  • UI will define lockup, but open ended on the back to allow projects different involvement.
  • ONLY the minting address will receive the L1 Access to the DAO.

NEXT STEPS

  • Upon ratification, go to snapshot
  • Upon snapshot approval, modify CollabLand configuration to support tlBANK as an L1 level.

POLL

Level update to include tlBANK
  • Approve
  • Abstain
  • Reject

0 voters

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It feels like the new text could be simplified:

Full DAO members are those who hold 35,000 BANK or mint the preset tlBANK and are authenticated in the Discord server. The benefits of full membership include access to additional Discord channels and no longer needing to renew the guest pass.

Also, what does preset tlBANK mean?

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35,000 BANK or an equivalence in tlBANK(Staked BANK)? What amount of vested BANK would be given L1 benefits?

This doesn’t mention voting rights of tlBANK. If tlBANK does include voting rights it should probably be included in this bDIP

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Do you mean voting rights or voting weight?

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Good point! I mean voting rights. I’d assume voting weight would be determined by the amount of bank locked. It would be interesting to explore increased voting weights, but my immediate thought is it would introduce another way for whales to skew the vote

Do you not feel this statement covers voting rights? i.e. it states that Level 1 membership is given.

I thought you might mean whether the Snapshot strategy would read the tlBANK NFT and implement the corresponding voting weight for the amount of BANK locked, which is not addressed at all by this bDIP.

I’m wondering if the suggested text needs further consideration, not only as per @links’ comment but also to ensure that the full context and implications are captured. The suggested text is Discord-centric.

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“L1 Membership with the included benefits”

I don’t know if voting is specifically a benefit of being L1. Currently anyone can vote with BANK regardless of their membership status.

This raises the question of how we track governance power of different tokens, and whether the addition of a new voting token requires a bDIP.

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On the UI, there will be 2 presets:

  • 6 month lockup - 40k BANK
  • 12 month lockup - 80k BANK

We wanted to identify the presets as the requirement, and not explicitly define them so that the DAO can be flexible in terms of implementation.

I’m planning on and EXPECTING us to modify and change these based on the needs of the DAO.


Currently, the 6 month is based on 2 season passes, and the 12 month 4 season passes.
ACKNOWLEDGING these need to change according to the new season timing, and the season pass will likely change.

There are two defined lockups:

  • 6 month lockup - 40k BANK
  • 12 month lockup - 80k BANK

Either of these will confer L1 status.


As part of the larger initiative of Tokenomics 1.0, 35k BANK L1 status WILL go away, as we finish implementing tlBANK and implement the Season pass, and L1 will either be:

  1. Season Pass
  2. tlBANK

That cover everything?

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As this modifies the procedure for obtaining rights and responsibilities of of L Membership I would suggest that this is a major bDIP?

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Hmm

Yea, tlBANK is equivalent to BANK.
(In current form!)

So locking up any amount, would confer 1 to 1 amount of voting for BANK.


Depreciated below

I actually think this requires an update to this bDIP, to include:

Current Text Proposed Text
DAO Governance DAO Governance
At BanklessDAO, decisions regarding governance, treasury, projects, and proposals are made through a democratic process. BANK holders ratify decisions through off-chain votes held on the voting software, Snapshot. Any BANK holder can vote in a Snapshot. The more tokens a user has, the more voting power they possess. At BanklessDAO, decisions regarding governance, treasury, projects, and proposals are made through a democratic process. BANK holders ratify decisions through off-chain votes held on the voting software, Snapshot. Any BANK or BANK derivative holder can vote in a Snapshot. The more tokens a user has, either in wallet or locked up, the more voting power they possess.

Please vet this above change!
(@Trewkat or @hirokennelly?)

A BANK derivative allows for tlBANK and any future primitives we might create, without having to create additional changes to governance.

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My thinking is that this is a minor and not a major, because it modifies and expands current agreements and definitions.

It is important, although it uses pre-existing language and expands on that.

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Thank you very much for the tag. The difficulty I’m having at the moment with this and other pending bDIPs is that the Constitution working group is very close to bringing a revised draft of the full Constitution to the community for feedback.

In that draft, we have already suggested changes the text referred to in this proposal. Consideration has been given to streamlining the text and removing excessive references to specific platforms, although references to Snapshot do remain elsewhere in the draft text.

In our document, the section you have tagged me for now reads:

7.1 DAO Governance Overview

At BanklessDAO, decisions are made through a collaborative process. Initial consensus is gathered in Discord channels through discussions and polls. Depending on the financial or governance implications for the DAO, a formal proposal may be required. If necessary, a proposal should be posted to the Forum. Once defined quorum and approval thresholds are reached, if necessary, the proposal moves to Snapshot to be voted on by BANK token holders.

We could easily add in ‘or BANK derivative’ after ‘token’ in that last sentence, if that covers it?

The harder part is the L1 membership section which is referenced in this proposal. We have made substantial clarification to the text about membership, so changing just the L1 section probably won’t be enough to accommodate the addition of tlBANK to DAO membership parameters. For space reasons I don’t want to post all the text here but if this bDIP goes to Snapshot and passes, its text might be quickly superseded by the proposed holistic wording our group has developed.

We have been monitoring changes and incorporating as we go but it’s becoming a bit of a chicken and egg game. I don’t know what the right answer is but I am wondering if you would be willing to check out our proposed wording and work with us to include tlBANK in that – and then either re-post the bDIP for a new vote or proceed on the understanding the agreed revised wording will be included in the forthcoming full Constitution draft.

Thanks for reading - I know this is a long reply.

That would cover it!

Yep, the challenge of working on things as they are moving.

I think best path forward is allow both work streams to continue, since we don’t have clarity in terms of when you all will be done.

If we run into a condition where both would need to be ratified in snapshot, I think what you all are working on would supersede this one (and others), as your change looks to be a Major, while all bDIPS up till now have been minor or patches.

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I was discussing with @0xbaer, and we think that we can consider tlBANK the same as a liquidity position (similar but different), which is assumed and covered under the current wording of the constitution.

So I actually think we are good, and do not need the change I suggested above or modify what you all are working on.

Thoughts?
Tagging @NFThinker as well.

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Nice! Great wordsmithing. I agree tlBANK could be considered a liquidity position for these purposes.

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BANK derivates sounds just awesome…

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I like the direction of TL-BANK and am voting to support this initiative, but a mainnet lock requiring mainnet renewals is a non-starter for me, personally. I hope this can be supported on Optimism or Polygon. Or maybe even an option for a lock doesn’t require a renewal? Is that possible as a thing?

Gas fee to unlock liquidity from an LP.
Gas fee to time lock that BANK instead.
Gas fee every however often to renew.
No apparent yield on the locked BANK, sacrificing yield from the LP.

This feels like a subscription to sacrifices. Maybe it’s just me, because I can’t afford to actually use mainnet for things, but I suspect I’m not alone. Definitely looking forward to seeing how this develops, though.

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I agree, and we do NOT want to penalize people or for gas to be prohibitive in any way.

tlBANK will be implemented and recognized on:
L1(Ethereum FIRST)
Polygon
Optimism

Just like the season pass :+1:.

Likely will be implemented on both L2’s within a month.

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