Making Bank Podcast Season 9 budget proposal

Project Champion: Droste.eth
Squad: WinVerse, Elemental, Tundeturner
Authors; Editors: WinVerse, Droste

Purpose: for-profit and public good
Affiliation: AV Guild, Marketing Department, Writers Guild

Date created: July 20, 2023
Date posted: July 22, 2023

Funds requested: 300,000 BANK
Project wallet: 0x9Ad27f9b1885b4324cF9d45af1006E8FcA22c9D9
Discord Server: Bankless Studios


The Making Bank podcast offers an inside look into BanklessDAO and showcases the people, ideas, and projects that keep it at the forefront of web3. Each episode, we invite DAO members to join us for conversations about DAO life, the future of work, crypto, web3, and their journeys to becoming more bankless.

We’ve stayed true to that tagline for nearly 18 months.

In Season 9 and beyond, we intend to broaden the conversation. One of our overarching goals is to make onboarding into decentralized communities like BanklessDAO more accessible and share our learnings.

We view The Making Bank podcast as one of the components of our organization that helps make onboarding more pleasant and smooth sailing. We help foster community by having top level discussions with DAO contributors, highlighting their valuable and diverse contributions in their respective DAOs and growing interconnection between them.


For Season 9, the project will be requesting 300,000 BANK to continue operations based upon project expenses.

Since its inception in February 2022, the Making Bank project has published 47 episodes through July 2023. As of yet, we have not successfully added outside sponsorship or funding sources and have been operating on a largely volunteer basis.

Our show has always been for and by BanklessDAO. All of our guests to date have been bDAO contributors; conversations range from stories of their journeys into web3 and bDAO, their contributions in the space, and frequently a specific project at bDAO where others can get involved.

In Season 9, we are looking to expand our guest roster beyond the DAO. We are also looking to further decentralize the project by selectively adding talent in the areas of audio engineering, storytelling & narrative construction, hosting and moderation, etc as our capability to manage a decentralized team improves over time.


KPIs met

  • Published 2 episodes in Season 8 (1 per month)
  • At least 100 downloads per episode

We are on track for at least 100 downloads per episode. Data through 7/21:

  • Episode 47 Ed On (Bankless Japan & Wonder Communities) 97 downloads

  • Episode 46 Bankless Card project update with Links 134 downloads

We typically get 40-50 downloads on the first day of release with a rapid drop-off after day 2 or 3. Over the past month, we have had 251 total downloads, which is up 21% over the prior 30 day period.

Tundee Turner joined our team during Season 8, re-engaging on social media and creating Twitter threads utilizing audiograms from current episodes. To piggyback on the mention of ChippiCon at Permissionless, he promoted our early episode with Perchy that was recorded over a year ago.

We generally create 2 to 3 audiogram-style shorts for each episode, excerpting discussion points that refer back to the full episode.

A collection of audiograms we’ve made are in the bDAO Dash media repository here: Dash
(hint reverse sort by date added)

Stretch goals not met

  • We failed to confirm and secure a sponsor in Season 8.
  • We did not make forward progress on collectible post & NFT experiments.
  • Producing more than 1 episode per month.

Why: There hasn’t been time to focus beyond core. Our top priority is shipping episodes consistently. To be quite candid we will continue to be challenged in this area for most of Season 9.


The Making Bank team is requesting 300,000 BANK

Fixed Production Expenses $135/mo (29,000 BANK @ .0047) = 116,000 for season

Regardless of production, these costs are ongoing to maintain the podcast.

Pod host (, recording studio (Riverside), audio software (Izotope), story editor (Descript).

Variable Per Episode Production Costs (4 episodes x 20,000) = 80,000 for season

We follow the bDAO standard of 1000 BANK/hour for calculating our budget. Task breakdowns, order of completion, and time required to complete them are based upon actual experience. Source data from our Task Tracker is publicly available for analysis.

Task Costs, Typical, in BANK, current

20,000 BANK per produced and published episode = total of 80,000 BANK max @ 1 per month release

4 episodes = 80,000 (1 per month)

Production Task Category BANK
Research 2000
interview - session prep, session, post-process 6000
Audio engineering post-interview 2000
Narrative edit, Show Notes, pre-pub review 6000
Final processing, upload, share triggers 3000
Sharable AV (audiograms) 500
marketing/social media (tweet threads) 500
Total production per episode 20,000

Non-production Costs = 100,000 BANK for season


  • Producer/ShowRunner - TBD, not budgeted for S9 (see unbudgeted section)
    • Currently handled by Host/Editor and paid variably depending on the quantity of output. Simply said, some weeks are busier than others.
    • variable hours per production task breakdown
    • Charged with overseeing pre-production to production workflow
      • Guest booking, scheduling, discussion prep, in-session monitoring, etc.
  • Marketing coordination – 15 hours per month = 60,000 BANK
    • Charged with overseeing post-production workflow
      • Sharing audiograms, sharing to marketing, watching calendar, ensuring social media channels are covered and that the show is coordinating with bDAO-wide marketing - timing, coordination
      • Weekly, consistent.
  • Social media manager (Twitter, Lens) - 10 hours per month = 40,000 BANK
    • Handle Twitter and Lens profile posts


Factor KPI Success Metric
consistency Number of episodes published and cadence 1 per month
views Number of downloads per episode > 100 per episode

Additional UNBUDGETED needs (TBD mid-season planning)

As mentioned in the retrospective above, we are prioritizing shipping episodes until we have more bandwidth.

Web3 experiments - collectible posts, Lens ecosystem

In support of revenue goals/independence, we will be experimenting with collectible posts and episodes. We’re exploring ways to both connect with our audience more directly as well as offer opportunities for financially supporting the show and track creator reputation. Suggest structured payment (ie 0xSplits or similar) plus fixed fee for base design and oversight.

Unfunded roles & responsibilities

The Producer/Showrunner was previously budgeted at 8 hrs/wk, and a ‘default’ host at 4 hrs/wk outside of direct production when we were shipping weekly. For most of Season 7 and throughout Season 8, Droste has been and will continue to largely fulfill those admin tasks until other team members’ availability widens.

Suggest budget adjustments to include a minimum ~ 5hrs/wk; possibly deferring payment to end of season based on kpi achievement.


We’ve been shipping for nearly 18 months with a tiny team and a tiny budget.

We’ve heard from guests and fans of the show that Making Bank has given them insight into people and parts of the DAO they may not have been familiar with, as well as offering a different perspective and insights into our wide-ranging projects and the depth of talent our people bring to the DAO.

The Making Bank podcast provides value for BanklessDAO itself, by surfacing and telling the stories of our contributors and the projects that excite them in web3. For those listeners unfamiliar or new to the world of DAOs, we provide a varied catalog of DAO experiences they can dive into. By sharing our journeys, challenges, opportunities and yes, frustrations, we think we help grow more DAO aligned members in the process.

We also look to attract sponsors by having members of other DAOs and DAO-adjacent organizations as guests. This will help us both to expand our audience and potentially bring in revenue to sustain the show.

We also see this as a form of public good. Sharing DAO journeys, common challenges, projects we work on and ways to participate are all a part of growing web3 and building community.


The current Making Bank logo is a derivation of the branding outlined in the BanklessDAO style guide developed by Design Guild. For collectibles, NFT projects, etc, the brand logo will not be the primary art nor necessarily the same color palette.


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Listening to Making Bank Podcast, was one of my eureka moments to continue creating projects inside the DAO. Thank you for all what you are doing.

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gm @Droste, happy to see you all back in action

can you guys explain this statement?

it seems ‘Making Bank’ will include externally focused stories too; what are the characteristics that distinguish you from other podcasts funded by BanklessDAO? Are there any specific plans for you to approach sponsorship?

I liked how you all have added this table to the previous funding proposal, this helped me evaluate your performance way better. Would you be open to providing us with an optimistic KPI like the previous prop?

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gm @0xbaer,

Thanks for the comments.

The purpose of the show has always been to highlight the people of bDAO, their web3 origin stories, and what they’re working on here. As far as I know, we’re the only show that does that.

So that’s what I consider to be the public good side, because it helps build goodwill, awareness, and insight into our organization.

We’ve talked with a couple of prospective sponsors but nothing confirmed to date.

You mentioned that it seems we will include more externally-focuses stories. Yes. I think that’s where we might get more traction with sponsor & cross-promotion opportunities. We need to grow our audience to do that, and also learn more about them.

Regarding our appetite for more optimistic KPIs like the previous proposal:
As your project champion, I personally do not have the capacity right now to do much more than get one show released per month. That condition will likely persist for the next couple of months.