ya i didn’t do that work for writer’s guild. I still wouldn’t consider myself a member and not sure how i have the Scribbler tag. Though i would consider myself a fan and community member
You have the tag b/c you completed a bountied task, ala the above. As you know, Guilds may define active membership as they like. Unlike most Guilds, we don’t use attendance as a metric. I’m more than pleased with that choice.
You know I appreciate your diligence ernest, and I know you have the best interests of the DAO at heart. Thanks for keeping it real.
The active member list you have submitted does not show what these users did to grain active membership. I assumed you used Writers Guild Executed Bounties, is that true?
The reason I ask is because Feems and ETrinity aren’t on the executed bounty list, so why are they on the active member list?
Contributions to newsletter project or BP count as well
Are those in a different place than Writers Guild Executed Bounties? I see some Newsletter bounties there
Writers Guild Executed Bounties includes the bounties for the Guild and related projects, so yes, that’s where the Active Contributor count was pulled from. @Trewkat and I will double check re: Feems and ETrinity and report back . Maybe one of our Notion Ninjas can figure out a way to make our Bounty spreadsheet ez for you curious folks to review our paid bounties. I assume your heightened scrutiny is because you are so amazed that we are able to support so many contributors in the DAO
I made a new view which filters for active contributors…kinda!
I think it’s my regular level of scrutiny but yes, it’s because I think the WG is killing it and I wanna point to WG as an example of what’s possible in web3
Both these people are on the executed bounty list as having completed bountied tasks for the Weekly Rollup on 29 October but were marked as Season 6 in error.
The payments happened in Season 6 - so they were included. We will have to ensure that that column is accurate in future but with multiple people entering info I guess it was an error.
We don’t need a separate ‘view’ of that database - that database is our active contributor list already by virtue of it listing people who have been paid by WG or associated projects. The only work left to do on top of that is add anyone that isn’t already covered but did two tasks at Good Morning News.
Thank you for going back and fixing the errors in Notion. To date, 72 WG members have earned bounties in S6. The Proposal has been updated accordingly.
Thanks @hirokennelly. Where guilds are 100% funded by the treasury, is there a plan on sending the additional funds in the multisig back to the treasury? Additionally, is there a plan to deduct any BANK that is remaining in the multisig at the end of season 6 from the season 7 funding request? Thanks!!
gm! TBH, there are no plans to return or offset S6 funding against S7 funding, but it’s a good question, esp to the latter, which accomplishes the same thing w/ less movement.
Automatic guild funding is just that, automatic, and there is no implied look-back period or other mechanism for recoupment. I also think auto-guild funding kneecapped productive guilds, as it limits our ability to prototype projects or otherwise operate autonomously.
FWIR, the GC was tasked with setting DAO-wide standards for Guild funding, but it failed to do so in Season 6. Hopefully this gets fixed in Season 7. There’s a clear preference for having attendance not count as ‘active membership’ but many Guilds rely nearly solely on that in their current funding proposals. In contrast, the Writers Guild relies solely on bounties earned through it and its related projects during the current season to arrive at its ‘active membership’ count, and I wish this was standard practice. The goal is to move people to projects, and this type of funding incentivizes that movement.
Projects are different b/c they are discretionarily funded season-to-season, so an offset based upon unspent BANK from the previous season is appropriate in that case. Thanks for your question and the opportunity to share my thoughts!!
gm!! Thank you for responding quickly, I appreciate this! I 1000% agree with you on everything. Additionally, I believe that with more support, some necessary changes could be captured through a bDIP similar to bDIP-05
Do the Writers Guild and Newsletter Guild work together?
If not, why not?
If so, why so much $BANK between the two?
Where does the Marketing department fit into this equation? If it doesn’t, it should!
gm gm my fren! Thanks for your questions. Guilds and Projects are different, as I’m sure you know.
Guilds are automatically funded, and their members contribute to our projects.
I see you also posted in the Newsletter proposal, so I’ll let that conversation speak for itself.
As for Marketing, we’ve been working over the past few seasons on strengthening those ties, hence the Marketing Coordinator. TBH, we’re all still learning to work together, but each season the silos we’ve traditionally lived within crumble more.
Thank you for your response @hirokennelly. However, I’m not sure my question about the Newsletter team and the Writers Guild has been answered.
Or, are you saying that the Newsletter team is actually the Newsletter Project?
Regardless of guilds or projects, we’re all here on the same team - or at least we should be - and therefore optimizing our resources, not just throwing $BANK around to another group who wants to do something similar to another group, like it seems that we are doing.
Unless of course I’m mistaken and writers don’t write newsletters.
If your question is about “why so much BANK between the two”, then it may help to explain the difference between Guilds and Projects from a funding perspective. Guilds onboard, educate, and manage talent; that’s their mandate from the DAO. The Guild doesn’t ship anything; although it does incubate projects before sending them to the wider GC for funding. Guild funding is automatic based upon the Guild’s active member count.
Project funding is discretionary, and subject to seasonal proposals. The Guild’s BANK serves a very different purpose than that asked for within the Newsletter Project’s budget.
But the tone DB is totally unnecessary. “Unless of course I’m mistaken and writers don’t write newsletters.” No need for snark my fren. We’re better than that.
How “tone” is interpreted via words on a screen is beyond me. Assumptions like this are what lead to the misinterpreting of whatever.
Sometimes firm language is needed to drive a point home, in this instance, this is what I feel is needed.
Thank you for the clarity in what a Guild does. Now that I know this, I’m wondering why writers aren’t part of the same Guild, with the Newsletter team a subgroup to that of the writers.
Yeah DB I hear you there. So true. Firm language I’m def cool w/, prefer even, because it is at its best, clear and to the point. For me, it was that line about writers not writing. I’m like hell no lol; we had 72 individual bounty-earning contributors as of last week who are members of the Guild.
But I can also see how you could mean like, WTF, Writers Guild doesn’t write stuff? So I should also be more careful in my assumptions.
I’m not exactly sure what you’re asking here, but to try and answer your question, it’s as our fren @links maaaybe would call it: a taxonomy issue. The Guild is just the guild; projects are just projects. They blend together, but are totally different things. You should check out our Notion page to see if that clarifies anything for you.
Discourse like we’ve been having is what bDAO should be all about fren
Being able to share our different opinions in an open and candid way, respecting the person and the posts, as well the responses to them, whoever they may be from.